tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10205805.post114351671361807696..comments2023-10-09T10:54:03.005-05:00Comments on Whitehall: v for very facileUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10205805.post-1143599643544685682006-03-28T21:34:00.000-05:002006-03-28T21:34:00.000-05:00Especially troubling is that much of the novel's h...<I>Especially troubling is that much of the novel's hesitance to whole-heartedly affirm the actions of the main character is absent in the movie.</I><BR/><BR/>Indeed, a good bit more of that would have helped to make this movie seem less overwhelmingly contradictory about the morality of what it promotes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10205805.post-1143572114289466952006-03-28T13:55:00.000-05:002006-03-28T13:55:00.000-05:00SK--From David Loyd about his involvement in the m...SK--<BR/><BR/>From David Loyd about his involvement in the movie:<BR/><BR/>"To me, what it has become is like a political cartoon, like the sort of thing you see in a newspaper..."<BR/><BR/>From James McTeigue (director) on his talking about it with the Matrix Brothers:<BR/><BR/>"We got toward the end of the third films [sic], Revolution, and we started talking about how relevant V for Vendetta still was, how prescient it was and in some ways how timely."<BR/><BR/>Joel Silver interpreting the movie's pomposity as contemporary relevance and intellectualism:<BR/><BR/>"I don’t think that you can watch the movie without feeling something either way. Whether the bad authority in Iraq or compare it to how we can look at Nazi Germany, it’s a difficult time. But I think that it’s a smart movie. It’s that horrible word – intellectual."<BR/><BR/>There were several references in the movie to "the war" agaisnt Muslims started by America, and to several of the villains having fought in Iraq. That was added, presumably, to ramp up the movies "relevance" quotient, as was the double dose of thematic gayness with the addition of the Stephen Fry character.<BR/><BR/>Lastly, SK, I think Alan Moore disagrees with you about how faithful the movie was to his comic book: "I've read the screenplay," Moore says. "Its rubbish."gwbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00126771210414634962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10205805.post-1143565527083676592006-03-28T12:05:00.000-05:002006-03-28T12:05:00.000-05:00JT --No political stand here, unabashed or otherwi...JT --<BR/><BR/>No political stand here, unabashed or otherwise. I'm just taking a stand against facileness masquerading as profundity, or mere meaningfulness. See above re: Eddie Vedder and The Rock. Its not about politics. Its about the way people talk about politics.gwbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00126771210414634962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10205805.post-1143565106044596642006-03-28T11:58:00.000-05:002006-03-28T11:58:00.000-05:00As applicable to all the other gay-hating, xenopho...<I>As applicable to all the other gay-hating, xenophobic, muslim-fighting, Christian fundamentalist, Iraq-attacking administrations down through history as to the current one.</I><BR/><BR/>How refreshing to see you making such an unabashedly political stand.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10205805.post-1143565060689531582006-03-28T11:57:00.000-05:002006-03-28T11:57:00.000-05:00cjdm --What irks me is the ability (and the licenc...cjdm --<BR/><BR/>What irks me is the ability (and the licence) assumed by the makers of comic books and comic book movies (excuse me for not making a distinction between a comic book and a "graphic novel") to comment meaningfully on contemporary politics. The lack even of a pretense of nuance is really tiresome. Isn't it the RIGHT who are supposed starkly to reduce the world to moral black and white?<BR/><BR/>I'll grant you, apart from the political subtext (or more properly: the political TEXT... there wasn't much "sub" to it), I had few formal grievances with the movie. Except that it was not as action-packed as I had been led to believe. But that too is probably due to the fact that the makers of the movie spent their energy bloviating in a rather grotesque, Bill O'Reilly-ish way.<BR/><BR/>Pop Culture political commentary, by the way, annoys me wherever I find it. From Eddie Vedder scrawling "Pro Choice!" on his arm on MTV Unplugged, to The Rock's absurd attempt to declaim importantly at the 2000 Republican National Convention.gwbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00126771210414634962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10205805.post-1143557743166044362006-03-28T09:55:00.000-05:002006-03-28T09:55:00.000-05:00You're right, SK. It was a timeless classic. As ...You're right, SK. It was a timeless classic. As applicable to all the other gay-hating, xenophobic, muslim-fighting, Christian fundamentalist, Iraq-attacking administrations down through history as to the current one.<BR/><BR/>There's absolutely no basis for all of the media reviews that hail the movie as "timely."gwbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00126771210414634962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10205805.post-1143557525055989132006-03-28T09:52:00.000-05:002006-03-28T09:52:00.000-05:00blessed wb:i think that V is a pretty good movie. ...blessed wb:<BR/><BR/>i think that V is a pretty good movie. in fact, i have seen it twice. it has problems...of course...but i wonder if the puritan anti-royalism is what bugs you...<BR/><BR/>saints preserve us!<BR/><BR/>love , -c.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com