tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10205805.post112248488851653458..comments2023-10-09T10:54:03.005-05:00Comments on Whitehall: them's fightin' wordsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10205805.post-1122599252398179182005-07-28T20:07:00.000-05:002005-07-28T20:07:00.000-05:00I have to say, I don't think this particular confl...I have to say, I don't think this particular conflict is a "both sides have acted stupidly" sort of thing. The CT6 have given +Smith plenty of chances to handle this quietly. But above all, what the heck did he expect when he voted as he did and then participated in the consecration of Vicki Gene? It's not unreasonable to expect some tolerance out of someone who acts thus on his principles, when that action precipitates other principled action. Are bishops and liberals the only ones allowed freedom of conscience? Are the CT-6 at fault for believing that doctrine matters, and that canonical actions have theological and ecclesiological significance? Both sides have acted according to conscience, but where the bishop has acted in a rash and overbearing manner, the CT-6 have been formal, slow to act, and quick to seek consultation both within themselves and from the wider church. We could point out that both side have been committed to their values: is this stupid? Call it stubborn, maybe, but stubbornness is only stupid when it is unwarranted. Was St. Charles acting stupidly when he was martyred, or was he stubborn and principled? If the church has no place for stubborn, principled people, who are willing to give even their lives for the gospel, then it is not the church. If it also has stubborn, principled people whose principles are different from the Apostolic faith, it has a name and a procedure for such: we call them heretics and schismatics, and the leave the Holy Church. All this to say we shouldn't bash both sides for being stubborn and principled, only the side that is leaving the Apostolic faith, and that only for being heretical.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10205805.post-1122559009737371562005-07-28T08:56:00.000-05:002005-07-28T08:56:00.000-05:00Both sides have acted stupidly in this. The nature...Both sides have acted stupidly in this. The nature of being an ECUSA priest is that you have to eat some shit from your bishop. The priests should have at least pretended to be cooperating. And the bishop should have the sense not to push issues unless he wanted a peck of trouble, which is exactly what he has gotten for himself. <BR/>Whats going on in CT is a big pissing contest... a power struggle... and now these 17 bishops have just turned up the heat.DBWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07327574529287324041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10205805.post-1122489052491795612005-07-27T13:30:00.000-05:002005-07-27T13:30:00.000-05:00Hey WB,Big Star is releasing a new album. Get pump...Hey WB,<BR/>Big Star is releasing a new album. Get pumped up.Amberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17448614578294075721noreply@blogger.com