tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10205805.post111642903733271915..comments2023-10-09T10:54:03.005-05:00Comments on Whitehall: awayUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10205805.post-1117418933236431172005-05-29T21:08:00.000-05:002005-05-29T21:08:00.000-05:00I can't put it together with the existence of nume...I can't put it together with the existence of numerous ancient traditions of Mary's burial place, such as Jerusalem, Antioch, Ephesus, etc. Those traditions pre-date immaculate conception and assumption doctrines I think. If so, then early believers, on the scene so to speak, didn't believe it and they should know better shouldn't they?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10205805.post-1116466365441265212005-05-18T20:32:00.000-05:002005-05-18T20:32:00.000-05:00WB, We miss you in CT! I will miss your moral gui...WB,<BR/> <BR/>We miss you in CT! I will miss your moral guidance, esp. as I walk by with my baby and you are enjoying a cocktail.<BR/><BR/>PJAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10205805.post-1116448290879852772005-05-18T15:31:00.000-05:002005-05-18T15:31:00.000-05:00With the papacy, I think have a lower doctrine of ...With the papacy, I think have a lower doctrine of the pope then you & Thorpus. I'm with some of the Eastern Orthodox. Down with papal primacy and all that. How can a human really claim to <I>replace</I> the authority of the Holy Spirit?<BR/><BR/>WB, I'm confused about what you said about Marian doctrines. To me it sounds like we have two inconsistent premises.<BR/>(a) For salvation, it is necessary that Marian doctrine is true.<BR/>(b) It is not necessary that one believes in Marian doctrine.<BR/><BR/>The only way I can make them consistent is to infer that the redeemed are anonymously venerating Mary (sorta like Rahner's anonymous Xian move). Anyone care to help me out?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10205805.post-1116439701162807852005-05-18T13:08:00.000-05:002005-05-18T13:08:00.000-05:00Ditto on the Marian dogmas: I have no problem with...Ditto on the Marian dogmas: I have no problem with them as doctrines but they can't fly as dogma. <BR/><BR/>As for the papal doctrines, I have no problem with the idea of infallibility, and if the Marian dogmas had not been the subject of an ex cathedra promulgation my life would be a lot simpler. As it is, if I want to accept infallibility, I have to 'hold the two ideas in tension' or some such rot. As far as universal jurisdiction, Petrine primacy, and all that goes, I'm down wit' it. <BR/><BR/>I have a good friend who shies away from Rome just because he doesn't think his theological conscience should be under the constraints of the magisterium. This is common among protestants, i think, but You, WB, and I are right not to be of their number.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com